Hi Russell! And out of respect for everyone here, I’ve alternated my spacing between one and two spaces while making this comment. Yes, it simply is. I want it to be right! Let’s not go changing rules of grammar to suit the advancing technology. There were multiple kinds of spaces, each with a different width. And I’m “only” 38, ha ha! Actually, especially in the year you took your typing class, the IBM selectric had proporyionally spaced font balls. Because the issue of spacing really isn’t that important, I have actually considered taking the post down, but I think there is a lot of value in the conversation that has developed through the comments. I like the two spaces because otherwise, I zip past the end of the sentence. Perhaps my typing teacher, was not as given to OCD as yours. The first computer, a great and powerful invention, was 8 x 3 x 100 feet and switching it on dimmed the lights in Philadelphia (as rumoured) but had very small or no memory compared to what exist today. When you have an increased sense of awareness of the typography when you’re reading it, something is wrong. This is especially useful in the modern age (i.e. You can find it on Amazon, if you’re curious to see more. Alas, you need not have edited out those extra spaces – websites wouldn’t display them anyway. What about commas?! Harlequin wants your query letter, synopsis and manuscript to be in one file with pages numbered consecutively, starting with the query letter. I particularly find the small/single spacing to be a problem when either (a) reading aloud, or (b) reading quickly. Thank you for getting the word out (and addressing my pet peeve). pressing enter after each sentence is finished causing your paragraphs to look the way that a Poem is written. I do! Single pixel periods are not the most visible graphic conceived. – MWH. http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324 like glass. If two rather than one,space after a period causes anguish in some folks … I shall gleefully continue using two spaces. one space or two does not create any real problem. That’s what formatting your word processor is for. So a simple solution presents itself: don’t use double spaces if you’re writing justified-alignment text. So please don’t be so hard on us boomers. A timeline seems right. This is going to be a book. English teachers (at least those I know) teach the one space rule to prepare kids for the business world — and if they don’t, they should. . There are two separate debates: the one about whether people should be continuing to press the space bar once or twice in the age of digital fonts, and whether we actually want to use much longer spaces after the ends of sentences than we do between words. The use of two spaces after end punctuation is still appropriate, like the Oxford comma, in some circumstances and not necessarily in others. To use what actually aids in comprehension. The generic of the format is that when the manuscript is scent to formatting for publish it creates a flowing book without creating extra work of having to go through and fix spacing and other errors created from spacing start of paragraphs instead of using the paragraph indent option, or justifying a line, that type of thing. Word processing and by the WAY, books follow the one space rule! Requirements of each agent and publisher vary. But hey – I also broke this into paragraphs using an enter or “return” key. And yes, I also rail at the misuse of to, too, and two; your and you’re; and their, there, and they’re. These American aberrations of UK English annoy me intensely. That is what i feel, that is how i write my manuscript. I learned to type on a manual typewriter in the 1960’s, and even took a typing class in high school. “Business leaders still use two spaces, especially the higher up that business leader happens to be.” What matters now is not how big, high, large or wide but how aesthetic, precise, among others. I’m glad you posted this and the resulting conversations. Even with my “aged” eyes, I have no trouble reading single-spaced sentences with proportional fonts. If you handle double spaces for aesthetic reasons, I would argue your sense of aesthetics is off but there isn’t much I can argue there. I know my grammar is not perfect and my punctuation could always use a good editor. When you put a double space at the end of a line, the program automatically places a period in its appropriate spot and starts the next word with a capital. I cannot be the only person to contact you about this. although i never learned how to type. A major contrast is Open Office Writer 4.1.0 that has an “ignore double space” auto correct option that you simply reach through tools. All of this is distraction and the triumph of surface over substance. .who cares? Two spaces is what they taught me in elementary school and it just stuck ever since. Have you ever heard of the en-dash and em-dash? Every sentence is a paragraph, which actually seems about right, because there often seems to be no connection between one sentence and the next. I always assumed that double-spacers came from a legal background, which explained why they needed a little extra help to recognize the end of a sentence. Only because I’m a bit of a geek do I even know about this change. I am a Mechanical Engineer and one of those who is strongly resisting the “new concept” of single-spacing sentences because in many fonts it makes text far more difficult to follow. I was taught in my typing class (using IBM Selectrics in 1986 – beat you to it by a year) to use two spaces behind the period after a sentence. http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324 Maybe what you think is just an opinion that doesn’t really merit being foisted on everyone in an arrogant manner….HMMMMM. Justifying creates uneven spacing between the words that makes it harder to read. in today’s character limit way of communicating, sentences have come to be viewed as single line items. (here is my reference in case you were curious: https://media1.tenor.com/images/d4ab8eece2f1e50cf709c007fe350e45/tenor.gif?itemid=14210749 ). (I just caught myself doing it again…) Honestly, I cannot believe the utter collossal waste of time spent discussing the one space or two space after a period theory of typing. Do what you’re taught if you were taught 2 then do to, no need to conform to the “new” rule. When I found myself called on the carpet over my extra spaces, I felt compelled to share my concerns. And: Those of us who learned two spaces can continue to use them. I appreciate the time you spent writing this article to help newbies like myself! I’d say Apple products are modern so why the discrepancy? Two spaces make me crazy, but for good reason. Coincidence? Just make sure they serve you a pupu platter, and not a poo-poo platter! The argument over one space or two reminds me of the Food Police advice on whether or not to eat eggs. But of course I understand that my generation has lost this battle. I haven’t heard any logical reasons to switch to one. They adopted the practice of proportional fonts into monospace fonts, rather than the other way around.” I know I did: I remember sitting in a computer lab in 1998, going through my students’ papers, marking all the places where they needed to add an extra space after the period. Good typography is invisible. We need to know the line the manuscript is intended for, the word count and status (complete/partial), any publishing history and writing awards. I understand why many people do not end sentences this way anymore, but it’s become comfortable to me – almost nostalgic. Anyhow the computer works it out. Many employers do not want business correspondence going out with those glaring double spaces… unless that company uses typewriters instead of computers (and they don’t). On the other hand, I’ve been using personal computers since 1981, so I made the transition to single-spacing between sentences fairly early on. Thank you, Jennifer. Thank you. Thanks for adding fuel to the fire. She's also a YouTube star.…” That is so interesting, Paula. How do I denote a new page on the manuscript if 4 pages of the proposed book fits into one page of the manuscript? Other places get hundreds a day. twice before hitting the space bar twice at the end of a sentence. My manual spaces don’t look like they’re enough, even though I hit the space bar five times. If that extra space adds even one iota of readability of a manual of instruction in the emergency procedures of a nuclear generation plant, I want it to be there and I think you do too. So Dax, it looks like your book is in Latin? Be sure your manuscript doesn’t contain any of these common pitfalls: These days, agents and publishers will request manuscripts to be submitted electronically. I found this so amusing. Although much has been said here (often repeatedly), there is one more factor that I would offer up for consideration: Many commenters here have emphatically stated that two spaces is more legible and esthetically pleasing (and proponents of one space have argued the opposite). Adding 2 spaces after a period added too much space between sentences. Or two? Howling about double spacing at the end of sentences is like bitching about the Eisenhower Administration. which I’ve never heard about. “I would rather have the occasional abbreviation look less eloquent than each area at the end of a sentence.” In practice people may say it’s a matter of style and opinion, but most of these people are not typographers. There is value in retaining older ways, such as teaching cursive writing so students can read documents before the use of typewriters. If anything, proportionally-spaced fonts have made it *HARDER* to see the breaks between sentences, than it was in monospaced-font days. It doesn’t hurt anyone. If anything, we need *MORE* than two spaces after a period, today — not *FEWER*. Aesthetically, it’s clear to me that people fall into two camps, and some in the two-space camp are there by choice, not by default. Thanks for this! Part 1 a page, chapter 1 a new page–then resume as normal till Part 2 comes at the end of some chapter? But when someone takes the time to get these things right, they convey more than clarity; they convey professionalism. I will continue to double-space, and fully agree with several previous comments about the ease of reading a document with double spacing at the end of sentences. Good luck. By your reasoning I may as well add three spaces because it promotes clarity of communication while keeping the meaning the same. We all have a vital part to play in the scheme of life. 2!” Enough said…. This is to save the people you expect to assist you with your writing trouble. Our highly qualified and shared admin. (I hate to admit it and I will deny it if anyone says I admitted it!) If you didn’t follow the language rules, then the compiler wouldn’t let you compile the program until you corrected it. Thanks for this — I can add engineering to the list of industries that have dug in their heels on two spaces (law and academia were given to me a few days ago). example: Adam finished dressing, looked in the mirror. Is a manuscript normally required for these smaller pieces? I blame it on my aging eyes. http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324 I hate it when HTML won’t let me do it because I think it’s just the silliest rule ever. Will there be a print version anytime soon? you will. I find it so much easier to read than that common Romans or Courier. The software is specifically set to insert a period if you quickly do 2 spaces at the end of a word! Now to get motivated to fix all the corrections and suggestions. In other words, i have no idea how to format so many different forms of communication and i need help. You don’t want your text formatter to try to be smarter than you. Hi Monty! This is what an ellipsis looks like: … See below. He a little confused, but he got the spirit! And I like my double spaces. Thanks for this information. It was not my choice, but I have found that it really irks people in this particular thread. New isn’t always better. https://media1.tenor.com/images/d4ab8eece2f1e50cf709c007fe350e45/tenor.gif?itemid=14210749. Please include a synopsis between 500-1000 words. Earlier printers had advice to deal with the situations where the holes became too numerous or looked bad.” It’s actually common to all webpages, unless extra spaces are inserted using “ ” (non-breaking space). Proportional fonts don’t mean that periods at the end of sentences have more space than commas, semicolons, colons, or even periods mid-sentence (like after Dr. or etc.). I’ve also seen it to show scene changes. Most people I know did as well. This is the very reason the use of uppercase letters at the beginning of a sentence became standardized. Carry on! Ugh. As an English major, I disagree. And finally, the rule you are implying, that sentences had no more distance between them than between words, is false. I’m sorry. You are so right. Perhaps that was the ‘ girls School’ thing or something! I’ve been too programmed tochange it now. I love ellipses and emphasizing with CAPS! I’m presuming you don’t actually draw or stick photos onto the page. It is the way your inner feelings are received by the observer. Thanks, Eva! If we weren’t able to change with time we would still be putting double e’s on the end of our words as they did in Chaucer’s time. It, too, uses humor to point out many flaws in how we use language and ways to improve our use of it. Two spaces and you can like it or leave it. for people who are NOT old), because computers must increasingly try to interpret our text. Interesting that Manjoo utilizes an Oxford comma in his rant, but fails to comprehend the need for two spaces. I am playing around writing a novel some day and I am shopping for ideas from published authors and from experienced hands in the business. ), I’ve written about those grammar and punctuation rules before. Experiment: “Your post, and your follow up comments, state that the reason people incorrectly (in your view) use two spaces after a full stop is because they are old, ignorant, and stuck in their old ways. It is generational. I also agree with ERSATZ – way too much fuss over how a person chooses to use a little white space. I’m not talking about illustrations, I mean like when someone picks up a note and then we see the handwriting of the note on the page, or, say – a newspaper article formatted like a real article, maybe with a photo – How do you indicate that this is what you want on your manuscript. I don’t care. So, I’m just going to keep double spacing…..#sorrynotsorry, Thank you for this reminder, Jennifer. . The reasoning provided by double-spacers is consistently more cogent and substantive than the reasoning provided by contemporary typographers, Dutch or otherwise. I have decided to make my own one copy of handmade book which would be kept as a memory of me writing my first book ever so, in that case, A5 layout is a little bigger than the normal classic books, i want to know what size of the paper is the best for my book! Another interesting point. Reading some of these posts, two spaces has historically been the rule far longer than any recent one-space trend. We are the ones who establish these conventions and some of us do research in the psychological impact of typographic practices. In music it is the space as much as the notes that gives structure to rhythm. It also increase the odds that a word will be pushed off to the next line, which will have the effect of increasing the size of all spaces, including the double spaces. You ARE welcome! Language is such an important tool and we should use it with joy. of course not). In recognition that legibility is important, the new APA Style Manual, “THE” official Bible for graduate level writing, now says to use 2 spaces. I would have to mentally and physically restrain myself to typing only one terminal space after each sentence; and it would take me forever to type. The real question here is why you’re using periods after abbreviations… . 1,539 Likes, 8 Comments - MIT Science (@mitscience) on Instagram: “A “sensational” map 🗺 of the brain 🧠 A team of researchers from Massachusetts Institute of…” Call me old fashioned, but it is, from what I have been taught, the correct way to type. Select Modify… This opens the Modify Style dialog. And if some one else is going to flow your copy on to a page using A page layout tool, then you would be causing extra work for them as they will have to remove the spaces, so they can has the control they need to design the page. A consensus finally coalesced within the past five years or so. (Sadly, not everyone has the same literacy level I do.) They did run companies offering the latest technologies in design and web programming, but they couldn’t do any of that themselves. I eventually moved on to more ambitious typesetting software such as PageMaker, Quark XPress, and InDesign. So Apple is not guiding you towards 2 spaces after that period. If you’re using left-alignment, like in most letters, many legal documents, etc., use double spaces, because they look better. However, her article does align with what the typographic community thinks, which is that double spaces after periods are not recommended. lol. The typists turned that into two spaces both because of technological restrictions and because it was justified to do so with monospace typefaces, but we’re working with new technology now and it’s no longer justified to use two spaces. Whoa. So many people have read this article and the comments that follow, so I appreciate you adding this information to the collective knowledge we’re building here! I will leave that to those who are expert in that field. Thank you. The use of a semicolon, an ellipsis or an em-dash can completely change the tone of the text and actually change meaning, and so can spaces, At the very least it creates a pause, which in itself has meaning. Two spaces! is two spaces after the end of a sentence. Historically it was preferable to have about 1,5 space after the period. Probably, the only style manual they have seen is the ONE manual for journalists, AP. Ironic, considering we’re talking about spaces. I did not learn this at school – I’m 27 (although we didn’t use computers at my school very often and I can honestly say I have no recollection of ever seeing a typewriter in real life)! Please note that your synopsis should start on page 2, and your manuscript should directly follow. It’s hard to keep up. Thanks. Opinions are not rules in English. a desire to be better at a game and to communicate with others drove me to learn to use a keyboard without looking at the keyboard while using more then my 2 index fingers. Also, the use of “OR” is not logical. I appreciate your contribution here. I like your writing. Most of us simply don’t know much about typography and so we couldn’t make any informed decisions on it. Now that stored memory is measure in terabytes this is not an issue. In fact, even something subtle such as letter combinations like AV, Ve, Vo and Wo not kerned correctly (that is to say, where one doesn’t compensate for the extra space in between these letter combinations) disrupts the reading experience, so I absolutely don’t see how the use of a double space doesn’t. I work for a large engineering company and our “Global Corporate Standard” for all technical reports, procedures, official documentation, etc. His historical point is wrong. Hi James, I would dump Word and buy Page Four and Smart Edit from http;//www.sofwareforwriting.com. We used pens with nibs and real ink, and learned GRAMMER!!! So, in school, when they type for assignments and someone points out, double-space after a period. Bluebook, the legal style manual, doesn’t have a rule on space after periods, but defers to the Chicago Manual (one space). I’ve always just assumed that it was a matter of preference. That first one was shouted and the second one was whispered…). Oh my God, I *love* your for this article! I had to edit the name you called me because I don’t want to offend readers more than I already have, but I think they will get the idea. I think two spaces is more pleasing to the eye and makes for better reading. Try as you might, you will NOT convince me to stop using double spaces between sentences. Don’t restart page numbers with each new chapter. 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